About

Heretic TOC is my personal blog. I have been at odds with “the dominant narrative” of sexual morality over the last several decades, especially as regards children’s sexual self-determination and paedophilia. My aim here is to present a discourse of resistance. That probably sounds grim, but humour and cheerfulness are my weapons of choice, along with reason and research. Odd to call cheerfulness a “weapon”, I suppose, but I do feel it’s a good tool, at least, for combating the depression into which so many are prone to sink in these difficult times. Nor do I really intend to use humour as a weapon to hurt people, in the sense that satire can be savage. I prefer a gentler tone, in line with the kind of society I’d like to see.

I wish I could say it’s optimism keeps me going, but the demented ferocity of “abuse” witch hunting is patently becoming ever more dangerous and destructive. Raging infernos burn themselves out eventually, but I doubt I shall live to see the day. Anyone who wants to know about me need only Google. Here I will just add that I am the author of Paedophilia: The Radical Case, the full text of which is accessible at IPCE , and (as Carl Toms)  Michael Jackson’s Dangerous Liaisons. – Tom O’Carroll

COMMENTS

Comments on the posts are very welcome provided they comply with the laws of the United Kingdom, where this blog is hosted, and any country from which they are sent. Comments may be edited, cut, or rejected. Please aim for the 4 Cs: Concise (maximum 200 words, preferably less), Courteous, Coherent and Content-rich i.e. opinion is fine, but better if supported with interesting information or links. No visual links though, please.

GUEST BLOGS

Guest blogs of up to 1000 words, but ideally 700-800, are invited. Email me initially (tomocarr66@yahoo.co.uk) with just a brief description of the intended topic. If you have already written a piece I will consider it, but items “tailor-made” after some prior discussion with me are more likely to be accepted.

218 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. Denis
    Apr 15, 2020 @ 19:59:19

    Congratulations for courage to talk about this controversial topic and discussed so superficially. Denis – Brazil

    Reply

    • tomocarroll
      Apr 15, 2020 @ 21:05:53

      I do hope you mean “discussed so superficially” in the dominant discourse rather than the one here?! 🙂

      Reply

      • denis
        May 02, 2020 @ 20:36:06

        Yes, this is a subject discussed superficially in the mainstream media, obviously. congratulations!

        Reply

  2. Paula
    Feb 26, 2020 @ 00:38:11

    Tom? as a supposed victim myself aged between 4 and 13. I loved every minute. It was special. Men desiring my young body and caressing me was a turn on., My only reget was being in the wrong body at the wrong time. I have no desire to touch kids myself, but I will always be that little girl with older men

    Reply

  3. Cyril
    Jan 16, 2020 @ 14:52:43

    Reply

    • tomocarroll
      Jan 16, 2020 @ 14:57:48

      Cyril, these links are not working.

      In any case, though, please post this sort of information to the current blog comments, not to the About page. Thanks.

      Reply

      • Nada
        Jan 16, 2020 @ 22:50:52

        Change the number of the cdn-XX, then click Download.

        Reply

        • tomocarroll
          Jan 16, 2020 @ 23:22:24

          Thanks, but it looks like you have to accept a browser extension. I don’t like that.

          Reply

  4. Quana
    Jul 31, 2019 @ 12:45:29

    Hi to all. Just wondering about Alice Day. Is it an actual day that people celebrate in recognition of child lovers…And also about certain peices of jewelry that people wear to recognize each other, where do you purchase it or is this just another urban myth….?

    Reply

    • Yure
      Sep 07, 2019 @ 02:55:34

      Alice Day is more of a celebration between girl lovers. There is jewelry, indeed, but I don’t think anyone has any courage to manufacture them anymore. I think it stopped, but, from what I can gather, it used to happen.

      Reply

  5. KindWolf
    Jul 01, 2019 @ 21:47:44

    I am writing to tell you– reader– about a film that I have seen. It is called Hanna, and for the past week it has had an effect on me like nothing else. It is amazing! Truthfully, I never watch movies or anything like that, but I’ve had so much on my mind that I decided to try and watch some in order to distract me from my miserable, lonely and disgraceful life. I had seen Hanna advertised before on Prime, but deliberately avoided it because I thought it would be social justice warrior stuff with anti-male scenes. I knew that I would turn off as soon as the cliche of the dirty pedophile getting beaten or even killed came on.

    THE FILM is an allegory of ChildLove. The father is portrayed as a really kind man and a serious man who is preparing his child for the her world, and the evil antagonist is an unmarried woman while her sidekick is also an obnoxious queer who dresses like it’s the 80s still. The horrible adults of the CIA ( Adultism) try to hurt the beautiful Hanna. The man in the old theme park is probably a childlover who is an ally of her father. There arenotherbdecent men, like how at one point she wonders out from the desert into a hotel and some Arab owner let’s her stay in a room for free, and without asking for sexual factors as would normally happen in a movie. There is nothing like that anti-male stuff you get everywhere nowadays. Hanna’s deceased mother had a last dying wish to protect her infant daughter from being turned into a hateful person like the female antagonist.

    When I tell you that Hanna is amazing you must believe me! She’s beautiful and elegant and might be partly related to a wolf because she is a mutant lol. I wish I could tuck her in at night and watch her grow into a woman.

    Eventually this beautiful girl-child must kill the evil feminist manhater. I was so upset when it ended. I wanted her to be safe. But I worried for her because everyone was dead in the film around her, especially her father. The film ended so abruptly! Where does she go and has she any money? Where will she stay? She is of course equipped to survive in the wilderness like a forest or tundra or desert, to eat, to keep herself clean and wear clothes that she makes herself as she is an expert hunter. But I was worried that she doesn’t know much about the world outside of that. I couldn’t stand the idea that she might be so lonely and cold and I was depressed for days. I knew, however, that she had been trained to “adapt or die” and so she would probably at first steal money by way of her stealth martial arts abilities and superior problem-soving intelligence. Then she would get lots of money from that, as well as having taken some money off of the dead bodies around her belonging to the evil henchmen. So I prayed to God or whatever it is a number of times that she would be safe and well fed and happy. She knows several languages so I figured she might want to travel Europe. Surely they could have had shown her grown up as an old woman with grandkids or something? But then the film is present day so it wouldn’t work. Then I found out that a scene had been taken out from the end so I watched the scene on YouTube. The scene is she is back in her old cabin with her wilddogs. She is wearing her modern clothes under her skins with the intention to suggest how though she lives back in the wild she will be making visits to towns and such and maybe she will eventually stay there. Though that too would be sad as she would miss her wilddogs. Only, the chimney is burning as she leaves… what does that mean? I will have to revisit that scene or investigate chimney safety in wild forests. Also, if the wolfdogs are on the bed, they must have a special entrance in her absence. She already had a fake passport but I knew that she was perfectly capable of adapting. And then at the end of the clip she turns and smiles at the camera. It is as if she is smiling at me to let me know she is fine. Do you think that the universe answered my worries? I know she doesn’t exist now but I thought maybe somewhere in another universe or whatever… I know now she is safe. What do you think girrlovers ? I know this is mostly boys tho… I have watched interviews with the actress and stuff to stop me from obsessing with the character. The actress lol is nothing like Hanna and has horrible feminist views and supports the nspc although that is in Ireland so maybe it’s different there I know the church is bad. The film is absolutely about a girl growing into a woman. Her voice is amazing and sweet in the film and I just want her to be happy. This will sound anti-sex but it’s not: I haven’t fantasised once about kissing her or anything. For some reason I don’t have a sex drive towards her. I mean it’s there but in the background.

    I would die right now in a thousand torture chambers for her happiness. Of course it is selfish because I am a worshipper of beauty!

    The actress said recently that she was never chosen by directors for her looks. She said it to make a MeToo point. Really though? This current atmosphere where they decry the virtue of beauty , when it is as any other like intelligence and kindness. I adore her beauty when she was a girl. From interviews at the time of the release eight years ago, it is clear how entirely different she is from her character. Some said she saved the film, which did have problems. The film might be an imperfect vessel in this life for the true thing in another. I mean, the director is English so what do they know about where a stag’s heart should be? They only shoot pheasants there.

    What did anyone else think of the film? And, moreover, Hanna herself?

    ( I am trying to get this post on multiple forums)

    Reply

    • tomocarroll
      Jul 01, 2019 @ 22:32:11

      Thanks for your contribution, KindWolf, but the About page comment area is not really the place for movie reviews, especially long ones. The comments here should really be about this blog, Heretic TOC.

      Reply

    • Voyeur
      Jan 12, 2020 @ 03:44:40

      You made me want to watch

      Reply

  6. Gabriel
    Jul 01, 2019 @ 18:33:06

    Hi tom, i just wanted to say how happy i am to find you and others who also support maps like me. As a gay 15 year old i feel that if i show my support for maps ill really be hated. I really can wait till i dont have to hide a relashionship with an older guy like you.

    Reply

    • tomocarroll
      Jul 01, 2019 @ 18:56:11

      Thanks Gabriel. Good to hear your supportive message.

      I should add, though, that the law in all English-language jurisdictions I know of, and many others too, forbids sexual relations between youths of your age and adults. It seems you are well aware of this but it needs to be emphasised in view of the serious consequences that can befall anyone who breaks the law. Even the younger party can be given a very hard time.

      Obviously, this is why we would like to see the law changed, and the culture that supports it.

      Reply

      • Gabriel C.
        Jul 04, 2019 @ 00:02:59

        If you or others want to talk to me you can on [NAME OF SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM AND USER NAME DELETED]

        DELETIONS MADE BY MODERATOR. MINDFUL OF LEGAL PROBLEMS, HERETIC TOC DOES NOT FACILITATE SOCIAL MEDIA CONNECTIONS.

        Reply

  7. Benjamin
    Jun 08, 2019 @ 01:25:39

    Hello Tom. I was wondering if you had any insights on the current political atmosphere and how this affects your goals and what impacts it has had if any on your ideas about child/adult relationships.

    Seems to me that we live in a post fact era and that there’s an increase air of disatisfaction with both the economic system and the growing uncertainty for the future. I myself am worried about the whether the world will break apart and turn openly violent or if it will be more of the same until we hit the inevitable wall (like a.i or the irreversible ecological catastrophe looking over our heads).

    Thank you.

    Reply

    • tomocarroll
      Jun 08, 2019 @ 09:26:14

      Thanks, Benjamin, for this interesting expression of some very far-reaching concerns.

      >I was wondering if you had any insights…

      I have views and like writing about them which is why I do the blog. Maybe I’ll get around to a blog on the points you raise but in practice it takes me about 2,000 words to get into gear on a single detailed issue. To do justice to what you are asking would take a whole book!

      By all means post about this and other topics not here, on the About page, which is supposed to be about the blog itself, but on the comments to whatever blog is current. That’s where more people will see it and will have the opportunity to contribute to the discussion. Don’t worry about being strictly “on topic”.

      Reply

  8. Саша Копоть
    May 14, 2019 @ 14:44:19

    Hello, Tom! I’m a map from Russia. On our forum we made a decision to introduce the Day of Remembrance and Solidarity with the victims of pedophobia.

    This is not a holiday, but a day of sorrow and memorial for those people who have not committed any violence and whose lives were destroyed by anti-pedophile laws and public hatred of pedophiles.

    We need ideas on what day to assign it. It may be the date of a known murder or suicide due to pedophobia. Or it could be the date of the adoption of some particularly cruel law, because of which many innocent people suffered.

    Do you support the idea of such a memorable day? If so, share your ideas on what date it should be assigned. We have some variants but we need more.

    Sincerely, Sasha

    Reply

    • tomocarroll
      May 14, 2019 @ 15:52:42

      Hi Sasha, good to hear from you!

      >Do you support the idea of such a memorable day?

      Very interesting! I imagine heretics here will have some thoughts to contribute. I’d love to hear them.

      Reply

      • Christian
        May 16, 2019 @ 19:09:20

        Maybe remembering Paul Christiano’s suicide, but the date is uncertain, he isolated himself on Wednesday July 29, 2015, and his corpse was discovered on Saturday August 1.

        Reply

    • tomocarroll
      May 18, 2019 @ 21:52:59

      Further to my earlier comment, and following Christian’s mention of Paul Christiano:

      Sasha, do you know about Paul Christiano?

      The fact that your inquiry is from Russia reminds me that the suffering in question is being felt in many countries.

      Paul Christiano should definitely be remembered, so I welcome Christian’s suggestion. He lived in the US and made his contribution to the cause in that country.

      I would also nominate Edward Brongersma, of the Netherlands, and Pastor Joseph Doucé, of Belgium and France, as particularly worthy of commemoration.

      Dr Brongersma died by voluntary euthanasia in 1998 after seeing the political climate in his own country and elsewhere turn against the radical sexual reforms he had fought long and hard for.

      Pastor Doucé was murdered in 1990, reportedly after being tortured. A cleric and psychologist who ran the Centre du Christ Libérateur in Paris, he attracted hostile attention as a result of his support for a range of sexual minorities, including paedophiles. He was taken for questioning by men who showed badges indicating they were police. He never returned. Three months later his body was discovered in a forest.

      Paul Christiano was for many years a dedicated volunteer and board member for B4U-ACT, working towards reducing social stigma and creating a more just society for those attracted to children and adolescents He was a talented and creative dancer and choreographer from Chicago. He apparently fell victim to despair in 2015 when faced with a possible prison sentence for violation of housing restrictions imposed as a result of a child pornography offence many years earlier. The best way to discover Paul is through the dance artistry and verbal eloquence he gave us in what may now be seen as his own memorial, a 33-minute film ironically titled Unspeakable, made in 2011. See below.

      There are many online sources of information about these three figures, and I would urge you, Sasha, and your forum friends to explore them.

      I would offer the following as a starting point:

      Edward Brongersma:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Brongersma

      Joseph Doucé:
      https://lgbtqreligiousarchives.org/profiles/joseph-douce

      Paul Christiano:

      Reply

      • Sasha Map
        May 19, 2019 @ 10:19:08

        Thank you for this information! Cristiano and Brongersma was among considered options. Information about Joseph Doucé is new.
        (I am Sasha Kopot. It’s my new account.)

        Reply

    • Voyeur
      Jan 12, 2020 @ 03:48:13

      Sadly it would just provide further opportunity for persecution and hatred of people who fight that enough.

      Reply

  9. Quana
    Apr 30, 2019 @ 15:02:40

    Hi Erik. How are you? Are you doing ok?

    Reply

  10. Quana
    Apr 28, 2019 @ 10:44:23

    I understand your frustrations Erik but I don’t think this blog is here for that purpose. It’s more to discuss the issue in a positive light hearted manner. I would be happy to chat privately with you if you wish to leave a contact number.

    Reply

    • tomocarroll
      Apr 28, 2019 @ 11:22:08

      In view of the nature of Erik’s post, I’m not sure I’d be comfortable posting such a contact number. I carry the legal responsibility for this blog. In the past I was convicted of “conspiracy to corrupt public morals” and had to serve a two-year prison sentence because prosecutors managed to persuade a jury (falsely, based on very thin evidence) that I had allowed people to contact each other for sexually illicit purposes. You will understand that I am not keen to repeat that experience.

      I don’t know why you want to contact Erik, Quana. In all probability the purpose is just for discussion and nothing else. However, in view of what Erik said, I have to err on the side of caution.

      Reply

      • Quana
        Apr 28, 2019 @ 16:53:48

        It was just so he could have some one to talk to as he seems quite frustrated. I completely understand your position. Apologies if I have caused any upset…

        Reply

        • tomocarroll
          Apr 28, 2019 @ 16:57:48

          No problem, Quana, you seem like a nice guy. I share your frustration. It would be good to have a dialogue with Erik rather than close him down, but we have to live with reality…

          Reply

    • ERIK LOPEZ
      Apr 28, 2019 @ 20:28:50

      i don’t wanna cause any trouble for anyone here-especially Tom Carroll. i guess i’m just a bit more honest about who & what i am sexually. i fully understand the implications i have stated. and if i have offended anyone please forgive me. i just wish i could talk with someone personally to air my feelings. it upsets me the laws and social outlook this subject seems to illicit. i promise to “tone” down my responses, but if it’s any way i can speak with someone, i am in great need of this.

      Reply

      • tomocarroll
        Apr 28, 2019 @ 20:46:30

        >…if i have offended anyone please forgive me.

        I don’t feel offended, Erik, but I do hear alarm bells.

        >i just wish i could talk with someone personally to air my feelings…

        Write to me if you think it would help, Erik, but for reasons already given there are some things I cannot allow on this forum. If you email me you will be able to say what you like and I will do my best to respond helpfully and sympathetically, but please be aware that I am not going to encourage anything illegal. This is my email address: tomocarr66@yahoo.co.uk

        Reply

      • Quana
        Apr 29, 2019 @ 05:08:20

        You have not offended me at all Erik… I admire your honesty and courage. We just have to be prudent and respectful…

        Reply

  11. Erik Lopez
    Apr 10, 2019 @ 17:40:22

    I’m Erik and a young boy lover. My interest is young boys. I’m 58 years old and see myself as normal in every way. Just because I prefer sex with young boys doesn’t make me “sick”, or a “pervert”. And personally I don’t care what society thinks about me. Nor do I ever feel the need to feel ashamed for loving young boys. Yes, I fully understand society’s outlook on this subject, I know my desires are natural. In no way would I ever physically harm anyone but my natural instincts when I see a young boy fill my head with desire for him. I’m writing this to maybe talk with other like minded men.

    Reply

    • Quana
      Apr 22, 2019 @ 06:01:13

      Hi Erik. Interesting listening to you. Not sure how to make contact with like minded men on this site.

      Reply

      • Erik
        Apr 24, 2019 @ 15:58:21

        hello,
        i’m a man with NEEDS for sexual gratification with young boys & young girls.

        [PARAGRAPH DELETED BY MODERATOR: ERIK, I DON’T KNOW WHETHER YOU ARE JUST TROLLING BUT THE REST OF YOUR POST READS LIKE A JUSTIFICATION OF RAPE DRESSED UP AS LOVE + TEACHING. THERE WOULD BE SOME MERIT IN PUBLISHING YOUR VIEWS (OTHER READERS WOULD BE ABLE TO POINT OUT THE WEAKNESS OF YOUR ARGUMENT, WHICH MIGHT BE A USEFUL EDUCATION FOR YOU) BUT THERE IS ALSO A RISK THAT THIS BLOG COULD MISTAKENLY BE SUPPOSED TO AGREE WITH YOUR POSITION.]

        Reply

        • Voyeur
          Jan 12, 2020 @ 03:56:18

          It just seems like Erik is able to be honest about who he is here. It’s easy to get carried away with how good it feels to do that after living a lie for so long. I hope you find someone like minded you can talk honestly with Erik. I completely understand how that would ease the loneliness of hiding every day. I admire your openness and courage x

          Reply

  12. Quana
    Apr 05, 2019 @ 14:24:04

    I agree that 12 is the right age. I knew what I wanted then. And from my own personal experience I was fine…

    Reply

  13. Ain
    Apr 04, 2019 @ 01:49:39

    At what age does penetrative sex with young boys/girls it become a realistic idea (assuming both people consent ofc)? I would think if the child was under 15 it would be too painful, even with lube and other preparations, but that’s just a first-glance kind of opinion.

    Reply

    • tomocarroll
      Apr 04, 2019 @ 08:04:10

      > I would think if the child was under 15 it would be too painful, even with lube

      Anyone, of any age, might find it too painful, regardless of what sort of penetration you have in mind.

      The important principle, though, is that any sexual activity should be freely chosen. It has long been my view that those aged 12 and above are old enough to decide for themselves what sexual activity they wish to try, with a partner they are happy with and whom they are confident will stop if things start getting too painful.

      Reply

  14. thoughtsofadeviantdissident
    Mar 26, 2019 @ 14:36:06

    Do you ever get any hassle from the UK officialdom regarding your blog, Tom? I’m thinking of publishing my own, but am wary of the downside, etc.

    Reply

    • tomocarroll
      Mar 26, 2019 @ 15:02:12

      >Do you ever get any hassle from the UK officialdom regarding your blog, Tom?

      Not yet, fingers crossed. Could be because I steer clear of contentious images, written pornography and any encouragement to break the law.

      Reply

  15. Benjamin
    Mar 25, 2019 @ 23:53:10

    Hello Thomas. It dawned on me that from my perspective the biggest challenge for the promotion of child/adult intimate relationship is that of the relative instructional powerlessness that minors often find themselves. The idea of childhood innocence being burried so deeply in western civilization’s moral fabric that it has created several generations of hyper innocent children. How do you think this would be changed? I thought that perhaps by encouraging youth (and by that I mean adolescents) to get more involved in society hence allowing them to slowly over generations to detach themselves from the traditional hierarchy of the modern day family unit.

    Any thoughts?

    Reply

  16. Benjamin
    Mar 25, 2019 @ 23:53:10

    Hello Thomas. It dawned on me that from my perspective the biggest challenge for the promotion of child/adult intimate relationship is that of the relative instructional powerlessness that minors often find themselves. The idea of childhood innocence being burried so deeply in western civilization’s moral fabric that it has created several generations of hyper innocent children. How do you think this would be changed? I thought that perhaps by encouraging youth (and by that I mean adolescents) to get more involved in society hence allowing them to slowly over generations to detach themselves from the traditional hierarchy of the modern day family unit.

    Any thoughts?

    Reply

    • tomocarroll
      Mar 26, 2019 @ 00:03:01

      Hi Benjamin. Thanks for your interesting contribution. Just as a practical matter, I find I am really busy at the moment and cannot keep framing short answers (that need considerable thought) to complex questions such as this in the About column.

      You might want to re-frame the question slightly and submit it in the comments section of the main current blog, where other readers are more likely to see it and pitch in with their own thoughts.

      Reply

  17. Lizzie
    Mar 23, 2019 @ 15:09:27

    If you like have sex with a younger woman of age then. What about the children makes it desirable? I like to understand what you think. And what’s so great about the child or children?

    Reply

    • tomocarroll
      Mar 23, 2019 @ 18:39:00

      >I like to understand what you think.

      That’s a good start.

      >And what’s so great about the child or children?

      If you are attracted to men, Lizzie, can you explain why? Most people do not understand their own sexual feelings. They are not chosen, they are just a fact of the way we are. It is exactly the same with attraction to children.

      Reply

      • Lizzie
        Mar 23, 2019 @ 20:16:37

        So what if you dated or had sex with a women who looked like a child then what?

        Reply

        • tomocarroll
          Mar 23, 2019 @ 20:37:34

          Good question!

          A woman who looks very young might well be attractive to many men whose preference is for prepubescent children. However, there are not many women who look convincingly like children. Even if they do, in early adulthood, the juvenile appearance is unlikely to last long.

          Also, some men, including myself, are exclusively attracted to prepubescent children. Even boys and girls of 13 or 14 are no longer attractive to me once they have entered puberty. Their body shape changes, they get pubic hair. To me they become almost a different species to what they were before.

          Don’t get me wrong, paedophiles may have good social skills and be very friendly with adolescents and adults or all ages; but sexual attraction is a different matter.

          Research suggests that women’s sexual orientation is typically far more fluid than men’s. For this reason, women may find it hard to understand the relatively fixed, inflexible nature of men’s sexual interests.

          Reply

      • Lizzie
        Mar 23, 2019 @ 20:16:37

        So what if you dated or had sex with a women who looked like a child then what?

        Reply

        • Lizzy
          Mar 25, 2019 @ 20:13:37

          What’s the age you start being sexual with boys and girls?

          Reply

          • tomocarroll
            Mar 25, 2019 @ 20:58:49

            We don’t.

            Reply

            • Lizzy
              Mar 26, 2019 @ 21:21:27

              You don’t have an age you start being sexual with them

              Reply

              • tomocarroll
                Mar 26, 2019 @ 22:29:28

                Correct. Perhaps I should just remind you, Lizzy, of the very first sentence on this About page: “Heretic TOC is my personal blog.”

                There is no “we” for the purposes of your question. This is my own blog and I can only really answer for myself, not for others who read it or comment here. Nor can I answer for all people who are attracted to children.

                In all probability, though, most people who are sexually attracted to children, especially these days with such strict, and strictly enforced, laws, do not have sexual contact with children at all. It thus follows that there is no age at which they start.

                Reply

  18. Benjamin
    Mar 14, 2019 @ 00:57:15

    Hey Tom. I wanted to thank you for making me aware of the ipce site. It’s a trove of information and I’m taken aback at how “non-pc” the information is on there. It’s very strange to be aware of this perspective but unable to discuss it with anyone. I’ve tried with some friends and while some were open-minded some reacted rather violently to very notion of there being a “positive side” to pedophilic relationships.

    But my question is, seeing as you’ve gone through the sexual revolution I was wondering if you could give me some insight on how pedophilia became so taboo in the first place? Like it’s been present throughout history and throughout a variety of culture but today it’s basically considered the worst possible thing you can be or do.

    Reply

    • tomocarroll
      Mar 14, 2019 @ 10:28:35

      >But my question is, seeing as you’ve gone through the sexual revolution I was wondering if you could give me some insight on how pedophilia became so taboo in the first place?

      Great question, Benjamin, but even just a half-good answer would amount to a whole book’s worth of information and discussion without being able to do more than outline a few main themes as aspects of possible explanation.

      It also depends on what depths of history we go back to. Taking just the very short-term perspective, asking why the sexual revolution of the 1960s & ’70s failed to press ahead with the pro-paedophilia views then being put forward by philosophers and in left-wing politics, I would say the explanation is fundamentally economic.

      Women’s increasingly important place in the workplace with the declining importance of muscle-powered manual labour has been the engine behind the morphing of old style “masculine” Marxism (the solidarity of working men and their intellectual leaders, who favoured men’s sexual liberation from monogamy and “bourgeois” family values) into pressure towards a different kind of search for social equality and justice.

      This was one that castigated “patriarchal” power in a male dominated society, linking men’s alleged (and all too often real) unfair domination of women to that of children as well. In this formulation, instead of projecting sexual liberation down through the generations, so that children could be sexually free, feminist power analysis emphasised opposition to male power being used sexually against both women and children alike.

      Looking more deeply into history, including the origin of “patriarchy” itself, is a much longer story!

      Reply

  19. Quana
    Mar 06, 2019 @ 14:50:43

    I don’t see what the big deal is. I had my first sexual encounter when I was 12 with a man much older than me and it was such an amazing experience… It lasted for about 3 years after that and I ended up doing ok in life.

    Reply

    • tomocarroll
      Mar 06, 2019 @ 15:24:35

      Cool!

      Quana, your voice and others with a similar message need to be heard more often and more fully. Great if you could relate your account to Consenting Juveniles, here:

      http://www.consentingjuveniles.com/

      Just go to the Contact page. Or even write a guest blog for Heretic TOC (anonymously, for your protection) if you feel you have plenty to say.

      Reply

  20. Benjamin
    Mar 01, 2019 @ 01:30:17

    Hello. I’m trying to get an idea of the conversation and while I’ve seen references I haven’t managed to find sources. I was wondering if you could point me in the right direction in order to find these so called “black swan” cases where the youth in the relationship expresses positive or neutral impact that their relationship with adult (sexual or not) had on them. I’m finding it difficult to find the sources of your book ” the radical case” on the internet and I’m never sure whether the stories of abuse I do find on the web suffer from the same oversaturated sample of people that the studies of child sexual abuse bring (as I’m the pedos are often from a clinical sample meaning it’s not ideal for judging the whole demographic

    Reply

    • tomocarroll
      Mar 01, 2019 @ 09:34:54

      Great question for the About section Benjamin. Actually, I should get around to making a dedicated page to do full justice to this fundamental point as I am not sure the “black swan” sources are succinctly stated elsewhere.

      There are two very important, readily accessible compilations giving actual cases of positively experienced child-adult sexual contacts:

      Burns, M. (2015). Cases in the research. Consenting Juveniles. http://www.consentingjuveniles.com/cases#Sct_1_Cases_F_M

      Rivas, T. (2013). Positive memories: Cases of positive memories of erotic and platonic relationships and contacts of children with adults as seen from the perspective of the former minor. Ipce. https://www.ipce.info/host/rivas/positive_memories.htm#Html

      The most important scientifically sound source in terms of understanding the overall situation is this one:

      Rind, B., Bauserman, R., & Tromovitch, P. (1998). A meta-analytic examination of assumed properties of child sexual abuse using college samples. Psychological Bulletin, 124(1), 22–53.

      Precisely because this was a statistically rigorous study showing that so-called child sexual “abuse victims” are NOT generally traumatised (even when non-consensual encounters are included in the figures), it came under extraordinary attack not long after publication and its authors were vilified. However, their work is now accepted by psychologists and other academics in the field, and widely cited by them.

      The Rind et al. study is heavy-going, especially for those of us who are not expert statisticians. However, papers that explain the debate for the lay reader are given at “The RBT Files” on the excellent Ipce site:

      https://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/rbt_files.htm

      Reply

    • tomocarroll
      Mar 01, 2019 @ 09:44:57

      Everyone should see this great new video, which is a wonderful “black swan” interview with Hollywood legend Scotty Bowers:

      http://www.Vimeo.com/319352786

      Reply

  21. Yure
    Feb 18, 2019 @ 17:00:50

    Tom, I don’t have means to contact you directly, in private. So I’m commenting here.
    The United Nations are moving to ban cartoon/fictional child pornography. More details below.
    https://www.boychat.org/messages/1524230.htm

    Reply

    • tomocarroll
      Feb 18, 2019 @ 17:10:30

      Thanks for this info sent to the About page, Yure. This kinds of thing is better posted in the Comments space on the latest blog though.

      Anyone who needs to contact me on a personal or private matter can do so by email to me at this address: tomocarr66@yahoo.co.uk

      Reply

      • Yure
        Feb 18, 2019 @ 17:23:51

        Should I repost there?

        Reply

        • tomocarroll
          Feb 18, 2019 @ 17:27:43

          If you’ve got a moment, yes. More readers will see it there. The About section is mainly for newcomers.

          Reply

          • Yure
            Feb 18, 2019 @ 17:30:09

            I do have time. Thanks for the headsup. I showed here because the latest blog post wasn’t about this, so I thought it would be weird to mention something off-topic.

            Reply

  22. Roxana
    Jan 30, 2019 @ 10:32:50

    For those who belive that beeing pedophile is normal, well is not normal at all no metter as hard you try to prove it is.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/neuroanthropology.net/2010/05/10/inside-the-mind-of-a-pedophile/amp/

    Reply

    • tomocarroll
      Jan 30, 2019 @ 11:21:21

      You are muddling a couple of concepts here Roxana. Most people are not preferential paedophiles. So paedophilia is unusual. Heretic TOC does not deny this. So, yes, statistically speaking paedophilia is not the norm. The same could be said of homosexuality.

      With homosexuality, do we say it is bad because it is not the mainstream? If something is to be condemned, there has to be a reason over and above whether it is common or unusual.

      Maybe you are saying paedophilia is pathological? The linked article makes some suggestions along these lines. But even if this were true it does not in itself have moral implications e.g. when you catch a cold or get cancer, you are suffering from a sickness but it doesn’t indicate that you are a bad person or do bad things.

      Some psychological “disorders” actually have a positive side. It is now known that many top scientists, engineers and other very creative intellectuals are on the autistic spectrum.

      Reply

  23. Ain
    Nov 07, 2018 @ 00:45:15

    Hi, I just started reading Pedophilia: The Radical Case and I haven’t finished it yet but so far I’ve found it really fascinating. I don’t know what my opinion is at this point- if I think pedophilia is good in some cases or all cases or bad without exception (and maybe that’s a good thing, for the sake of reading without bias.)

    I don’t have it all figured out yet, but the one thing I know I disagree with is the fact that pedophiles are judged as immoral, disgusting beings without being given any platform to defend themselves. Whenever somebody’s revealed as a pedophile, their life is destroyed, so of course most people are just going to keep their nose clean. In my opinion, if we’re going to advance anywhere as a society we have to engage both sides in the argument, whether or not the issue at hand is immoral or not. Maybe pedophiles are detestable in all cases, but even if that’s so, they’re still human. So they have the same rights as anybody else.

    Are there any other books, movies, essays, etc that support pedophilia? I feel like there’s so much discussion being wasted with the knee-jerk reaction of most people, but it’s so difficult to find any material from the other side.

    Thank you,
    Ain

    Reply

    • tomocarroll
      Nov 07, 2018 @ 10:03:29

      Love your open-mindedness, Ain! We sure could do with more of that across a range of topics.

      Did you find my book online at Ipce’s excellent library? There is a wealth of interesting material to be found at http://www.ipce.info but it may be hard to know how to prioritise.

      For a recent selection of the best work you could do worse than consult some of the references mentioned in the conclusion to a paper of mine published recently in the academic journal Sexuality & Culture. I would say that to start with it is more useful to understand what is known about child sexuality rather than paedophilia, and I give references on that. In recent years, though, there has been far too little formal study in this area: it’s seen as too hot to handle!

      Indeed, as I say in my conclusion, “…the very concept of “child sexuality” is increasingly presented as an oxymoron (Angelides 2004).”

      I then continue:

      “In these circumstances, a reasonable starting point would be to begin giving fair consideration to the limited amount of evidence we do have on child sexuality, including the fact that it does not support the conventional wisdom of childhood innocence (Bancroft 2003; Leahy 1991, 1992; Martinson 1973, 1994) and does indicate that mutually desired child–adult sexual relations are not intrinsically harmful and may be beneficial (Burns 2015; Kilpatrick 1992; Leahy 1991, 1992, 1996; Okami 1991; Rind 2003; Rivas 2013; Sandfort 1987, 1992).”

      These references are listed in full at the end of the paper which you can get as a free full text PDF download from the publisher’s link, here:
      https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12119-018-9519-1

      In addition there are important formal discussions of relevant ethics/philosophy. The best introduction to the references would be to read my article, which is itself largely philosophical.

      Reply

  24. Rey Gonzales
    Oct 08, 2018 @ 16:38:18

    Its people who are sexual sadists and that have a violent nature, that like to inflict mental and physical pain, that cause the real problems. Not only in children but in adults as well. The word pedophile is being used as a general term and should be called something else when it doesn’t include sadism. I know therapists will argue that all forms of sexual encounters between children and adults is harmful and causes mental pain, but that’s an assumption and a lie. It all depends on how it is done. If it is against the will of a person ofcourse it’s damaging and wrong. Sexual sadists are the people most likely to do actual harm because they don’t care if its consensual or not.

    According to Australian research statistics that reveal 1 in 6 girls by the age of 18 report they have been involved in sexual activity with an adult, why is it that a vast majority never come forward when the law makes it so easy for them to come forward. Why aren’t we seeing thousands of men before the courts every week? Why? Because the truth is that most of the harm is done by the sexual sadists and the vast majority of so called pedophiles are not sexual sadists and have not created any harm to their so called victims. Do we ever hear about women who describe their sexual encounters with an adult in childhood as being a good or pleasant experience? No. because society doesn’t want to hear the truth and we have been brainwashed to believe that any such activity is harmful and wrong so even those that didn’t really have a bad experience will still have to believe that they did.

    Relationships be it sexual or otherwise between adults and children have been going on since the beginning of time and for a certain percentage of people, its a normal part of life. Its nothing more than a different sexual preference. Who has the right to say what is right or wrong anyway unless it harms someone? There is research that shows that it does not cause harm if it is consensual but such research is quickly attacked.

    In America and Europe people could marry at the age of 10 -12, some 130 years ago. It wasn’t a big deal then. Allah, for example, had a wife who was 9 yrs old. So are Islamists all pedophiles? Many cultures don’t have a problem with it so why has it become such a big deal in Western culture in this day and age? We live in a society where bank robbers and murders get celebrity status whilst pedophiles are seen as devils. Lets distinguish between pedophiles because there are two classes. The word pedophile should only be used when it involves people who are sexual sadists. Most pedophiles are not sexual sadists.

    Reply

    • tomocarroll
      Oct 08, 2018 @ 17:29:14

      Thank you, Rey Gonzales. Basically, I agree with all this, although there is a slight slip that I guess was unintentional. You wrote:

      >Allah, for example, had a wife who was 9 yrs old

      I think you meant to say the prophet Muhammad, the founder of Islam.

      Reply

  25. Tina
    Sep 13, 2018 @ 05:37:37

    Your ideology is your own insanity.
    It’s your own insanity that makes you think prepubescent children enjoy sexual behavior from a grown man or woman.
    You yourself has said, if a child is exposed to socially acceptable sexual behavior, ex. Seeing their parents having sex, they’re more acceptable to accepting sexual advances.
    In all the research you have given..we have not heard the side of your victims..or as you say…your lovers…and their stories.
    Just because someone doesn’t show pain, does not mean they aren’t in pain. To me, you lack empathy. In empathy is love.
    Your claim that your sexual preference is the same as being gay is absurd. Which brings me back to the same thought.
    Your ideology is only one sided. You’re victims do not even have the vocabulary to speak about the violating acts that you call love. Let alone be a willing and knowing participant of YOUR act.
    I doubt this will make your blog, as I am sure you do not have any intellectual answers that you can’t back up with a B.S. reference.
    Insane people don’t know they’re insane.

    Reply

    • tomocarroll
      Sep 13, 2018 @ 08:23:07

      >I am sure you do not have any intellectual answers that you can’t back up with a B.S. reference.

      Doesn’t pre-dismissing any references as B.S. before you even know what they are, and what evidence they might contain, sound a bit like prejudice? It is literally prejudging. Aren’t thoughtful, educated, rational people supposed to be against that? Or are you just a straightforward bigot?

      Reply

      • Paula
        Feb 26, 2020 @ 01:44:50

        I am an alledged victim and let me tell you straight. I enjoyed every minute of it. I often knew it was coming and my tummy was excited. I would rather have a grown man kissing and stroking my body than having one kicking me upside down. I were born a boy but I were happy to be an innocent 10 year old stood on a stage winning competitions dressed as a girl. I personally don’t go for kids. I like the older men so that I can carry on my past. Men cut off and leave you in the dark though. That is what I hate about them. When you start responding like a girl and start flirting then they give you the brush off, You aren’t that little kid anymore.

        Reply

        • tomocarroll
          Feb 26, 2020 @ 09:41:13

          >Men cut off and leave you in the dark though.

          To the extent that this happens, it is a fair point of criticism. But there are good grounds for saying it isn’t typical.

          Reply

    • AJ
      Mar 03, 2019 @ 17:40:41

      I find this quite an awful self-explanatory thought, but hypothetically, if any young child was ever able to give constent and was interested in any sexual activity, it wouldn’t for sure be with a repulsive old man. That would be too scary and just gross. Stop lying to yourself, no child wants you near them. I am 25 and would not let you touch me, it’s simply too gross. Ew.

      Reply

      • tomocarroll
        Mar 03, 2019 @ 18:29:33

        The law against sexual contacts between children and adults also applies to handsome, attractive adults the same age as you, and much younger! It serves to criminalise even teenagers who have such contacts.

        Incidentally, children do not necessarily find older people repulsive, especially if they have been brought up by older people – in some cases this might be by their grand-parents.

        Reply

        • Paula
          Feb 26, 2020 @ 01:07:03

          I wish I had met you Tom in my younger days. You are hot and I would have wanked you off and let you pass me around your friends. I am a boy but I love attention by men and especially when they turn me into a girl. If you ever get locked up again, I will be your younger wife.

          [Tom writes: Love your enthusiasm, Paula, but let’s be clear: passing kids around was never on my agenda. If a kid can enjoy sex with more than one adult, that’s fine – Hollywood’s Scotty Bowers is a good published example, in his memoir Full Service – but is should be their choice, not the adult’s.]

          Reply

  26. gordonk
    Jul 02, 2018 @ 17:22:05

    I just ran across this bit of research that fits in with our battle. I suspect that we still have some room to get to the 25% mark, but perhaps not as far as I sometimes fear.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-25-revolution-how-big-does-a-minority-have-to-be-to-reshape-society/

    Reply

    • tomocarroll
      Jul 02, 2018 @ 18:14:18

      Yes, I have already read this interesting article. I doubt we’d get 2.5% at the moment, though, never mind 25%.

      Reply

  27. thoughtsofadeviantdissident
    Jun 02, 2018 @ 20:18:41

    Can The New GDPR Be Used Against This Lot?

    Whilst I’m not on their database, I wonder if we can use the new EU legislation to shut this website down?

    https://theukdatabase.com

    Shower of bastards!

    Reply

    • tomocarroll
      Jun 02, 2018 @ 20:39:18

      >Can The New GDPR Be Used Against This Lot?

      Interesting thought. Might be worth a bit of research.

      Reply

      • thoughtsofadeviantdissident
        Jun 08, 2018 @ 14:31:34

        Reading the bumf, it looks like only those directly affected by it can complain.

        Reply

Leave a Reply to Voyeur Cancel reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out /  Change )

Google photo

You are commenting using your Google account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.

%d bloggers like this: